I’ve had time to reflect since the previous post WANTED: Local Church, Will Relocate. In addition, some very valid and commonly heard concerns about what I’ve proposed were brought up in a comment. After reviewing my options, I decided I should do some further explanation in a separate article.
I once explained to a brother my views on how a church should be local by using the analogy of the family. The church is referred to by God in the Scriptures as the household of God (Ephesians 2:19), and we are all brothers and sisters in that one family. In our Father’s house there are many mansions (John 14:2), and I believe it is acceptable to think of this as referring to many local churches. Therefore I believe that the local church is meant to be a visible example of a close-knit family under the headship of our Lord Jesus Christ.
I asked this brother the question: “Just because a teenage daughter owns and drives an automobile, does that mean that she should be allowed to live several miles away because it is easy for her to regularly gather together with her family, now that we have modern transportation?” The answer is obvious. There would be something seriously wrong with a family that used the excuse of modern transportation and communications to justify scattering themselves across the landscape. The same goes for the local church.
The three-block figure (”several blocks”) was one mentioned for a very small church of less than ten heads of household, and comes from my experience here in Rayville, where it is a reality. I have been greatly blessed by the experience of living within a few blocks of my true family (Matthew 12:50), and have seen countless good reasons come to the surface for why God wanted this to be so.
One of the most important lessons learned from this experience is just how much the foundations have been destroyed in this nation, specifically the ones that teach us how to relate to each other in a Christ honoring and respectful way. Gather some Christians together in such an experiment for a few years, and you’ll find out how quickly we abandon God’s Word about how to relate to each other in problems, differences and offenses. This is where the “tire meets the pavement” as far as restoration of the church to a place of dominance in our nation: God will heal our land when we learn once again how to honor Christ and His Word in proper relationship with Him and each other.
In modern times, Christians have seen how many of these local church “experiments” have not worked out, and have thrown the baby out with the bath water. But to these I say what Theodore Roosevelt said: “The only one who never makes mistakes is the one who never does anything.” Before we critique the failings of those who are seeking to come together and live in close covenant community according to the Word of God, let us consider whether or not we ourselves are doing anything substantive to seek the ideal that God has for us. This is how we find out what areas we need to work on, by trying something. The true value of our “baby steps” in obeying Him is that when we fall, He picks us up, brushes us off, and restores us to try again, which proves to us all the more that He loves us and wants us to be blessed and prosper. After all, reproofs of instruction are the way of life (Proverbs 6:23).
In my proposal, the distances mentioned do not include all of the lands that are available to be worked by the members of the church. The several block figure is in reference to where they live and have their homes, not the entire amount of workable land. The historical model of Christian colonies is that the church building is in the center of the community, with the member’s houses around it in the town or village, and the land that is worked and used surrounding that, sometimes also including “commons.” Here is a drawing I’ve made of this model, found in reality and various similar forms in countless places and times in history:
Keep in mind that not all the members of the church or community will be farming and working the land. The common reaction to what I’ve shared in the previous post comes mostly from a limited definition of “agrarian.” Most today when they hear this term think only of agriculture, and do not realize that the community is agriculture based, but not limited to those vocations. As I’ve explained, we must include service to God in many other needs of culture, economics, government and society. A pastor does not require more than a small amount of land, and although his family may work a garden, his calling is elsewhere than larger scale production of food. The same goes for many of the other vocations necessary in an agrarian community: they don’t all need larger tracts of land.
In the comment to the previous post a five-acre figure is mentioned as being “… to produce food for the family and for sale…” Not all members of an agrarian community support themselves by selling food. Instead, they offer other products and services as needed by the community and in this way ultimately obtain the food they may not have time to produce. In fact, there are many family callings wherein it would be perfectly acceptable for the provider of these products and services to do no gardening or farming at all! We are not all called to be farmers, and my vision for an agrarian community or church is not one where all the households do the same thing.
It is possible for a church plant (or colony) to buy contiguous tracts of land for the purpose of creating such a community, even today! Historically, this has happened many times. One example that I’m very familiar with is the settlement of the Holland, Michigan area led by Albertus van Raalte in 1846. He went ahead of the settlers and bought up large tracts of land, and initially they all settled close together in the middle of the thousands of acres purchased. After the beginning period this Dutch Reformed settlement developed into several churches and towns over a larger area. But they started very small and very close together. That is where I think we are in this nation today: we must begin very small, and let God bless it into something bigger as we are faithful.
For those interested in reading more about Van Raalte and what he accomplished, I highly recommend that you start your studies with an enjoyable historical fiction book that is good for children as well, entitled “A Land I Will Show Thee” by Marian A. Schoolland. There are more scholarly books written about the Dutch settlements in Michigan (and Iowa), but there are none more heart stirring and enjoyable to read than Schoolland’s. BTW, there is a sawmill featured in the story that they had to build three times, and this has endeared the book to me all the more! (Some of you may know I own part interest in a sawmill.) If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.
The crux of the matter to consider in my mind at this point is not how much land we should be spread across for the model Christian community and church. This will vary widely, as in places and times the Godly community has thrived very well spread out over hundreds of square miles. The question to ask is not how much distance there can be between us, but how much influence the church will have in an area where they are heavily outnumbered by unbelievers and those of little or different persuasion. If the population density is very high, the church will have to be very close together in order to be the dominant influence in a smaller area. Here in Rayville, and in order to be able to someday find a majority on the village council, if God would so bless, we chose to settle within the village limits and in a relatively small area.
Here is a photographic example of a church community in the wide-open spaces of the prairie that did not have to be compacted into a small area:
I apologize that I do not know the name of the church or community. Perhaps someone that sees this will recognize it, and let me know. The pictures were taken just off Highway 14 between New Raymer and Sterling, Colorado, on July 28, 2008. Zooming out, we find the cemetery that was most likely used by the members of the church:
And turning to the right, the name of the cemetery and a larger view of the emptiness of the surroundings:
Notice the dates. This was a time in our nation when for the most part what I’ve been saying about the local church was still considered normal and didn’t have to be said.
The point made by the photographs is that there isn’t a lot of competition for dominating influence in that community and so a few believers can spread way out.
As for my desires for a local church, it has been said to me that “… I don’t see how one is going to accomplish what you desire.” To me, it isn’t what is practical, realistic or possible with men. The concern we should have is “What is God’s will?” For whatever He calls us to He makes provision to accomplish. However, we must have faith that it is possible, indeed, ordained of God to be inevitable. Van Raalte knew this truth, as what he attempted and accomplished defied all possible prior estimations of what was practical or realistic.
If we limit what we are willing to attempt in service to God to what we believe we have the strength and power to accomplish, we limit God, who owns the cattle on a thousand hills. Let us instead examine and consider what it is that God would like to accomplish in His omnipotence, for the glory of His name and the Lord Jesus Christ. With men, these things are impossible, but with God, all things are possible.
Submitted in hopes for the glory of God and the restoration of the dominion of our Lord Jesus Christ in the church.
Jeffrey Alan Klute
Rayville, Missouri
Christine | 06-Aug-08 at 9:18 am | Permalink
Thank you for your explanation. I understand what you are advocating. The acreage needed to pasture animals and produce grains for consumption would lie on the outskirts of the village/town but the townsfolk who did farm would live in the city and ‘commute’ to the land or live on the land itself.
So are there currently any reformed communities/churches that are trying to follow this model, aside from CRC Rayville? If not, would you be willing to get one started?
Jeffrey | 06-Aug-08 at 2:47 pm | Permalink
Christine,
As God is true and good, there must be other reformed communities or churches that are working this parish model to one extent or another. I’m sure they exist, yet as they may not be vocal or self-conscious about it they are difficult to discover. One thing I’ve hoped is that by publicly airing my views, someone who has similar experiences, desires or goals will be enabled to get in touch with me.
Matthew 7:7-11:
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
I am of course willing to help in starting a church by coming beside those with a similar calling. This is what I was doing here in Rayville, as many as my failings were. Now it is obvious that God wants me elsewhere to start anew. I have hope by the grace of God I will not make the same mistakes again.
I’m not looking for a perfect group, but I have to draw the line at being like-minded enough to have a place to begin. All I can do is look at my list, and be willing to submit myself to a church that embraces most if not all of the qualities desired. Then to hope that with time, patience and the blessing of God we can move in the right direction (reformed and reforming).
Truths are like seeds. If placed in the proper conditions, they sprout up and thrive. I’m looking for good soil. In the meanwhile, the seed will keep if it is protected, cool and dry.
The climate is changing in this nation. A time is coming when these truths will blossom and flourish as they have in the past. But probably after great hardship in the winter of our discontent.
Our duty is to look for good soil, plant the seed and water it. When spring comes God the Creator will work the miracle and cause the growth.
Turn again our captivity, O LORD, as the streams in the south.
They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.
He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.
Jeffrey
Bret McAtee | 08-Aug-08 at 3:52 pm | Permalink
Jeff,
I am responding here to your inquiry to me.
http://www.ironink.org is indeed my website. I live just south of Lansing Michigan and pastor a small Reformed church in Charlotte.
Contact me at your leisure.
Thanks for contacting me.
For the King and the Heavenly country,
Bret
Jeffrey | 09-Aug-08 at 3:53 pm | Permalink
Bret,
Thanks for your responses to this post and the previous one. I’d like my readers to know that what prompted the beginnings of our relationship is the post you made at http://ironink.org/index.php?blog=1&title=a_new_and_modified_declaration&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
When the decks are clearer I’ll try to get in touch with you. Meanwhile, I’ll be watching your site.
Jeffrey
Jeffrey | 10-Aug-08 at 2:42 pm | Permalink
Christine,
I want to thank you for writing about your church on your blog, at: http://homesteadherbs.christianagrarian.com/?p=113#comments
I hope you don’t mind the link, but I am convinced from what little I know about your church that it is organized much along the lines of what I’ve been talking about in this post and the previous one. I confess I’ve not been able to find out more about St. David’s, but I wish to amend that now, and will be taking a closer look. It is easier now that I’ve formulated my list of desires to ask the right questions.
Jeffrey
Christine | 10-Aug-08 at 5:19 pm | Permalink
I’m happy to be ‘linked’
Jeffrey | 12-Aug-08 at 12:35 am | Permalink
I’ve had further thought and fellowship over my concerns with the issue of church incorporation and 501c3 status. Here’s what came up.
Many see this issue as a question about whether or not the state may or may not exercise control of what is said from the pulpit. Although state representatives and judges may choose not to exercise this power over what is said or preached, I believe that under the laws of the state they are justified in doing so by the same source of law that was used to create the corporation in the first place. Granted, they may try to control the pulpit even if a church is not incorporated. But incorporation clearly indicates to all that you want to play by their rules. And the god of this system of law today refuses to acknowledge Jesus Christ as lawgiver.
But that is not the best way to understand why church incorporation is unfaithfulness. The quick trip to the heart looks at the presuppositional and covenantal boundaries established by the Word of God.
Incorporation of a church is man’s arrogance in pragmatically infringing upon the crown rights of our Lord Jesus Christ in His bodily representation upon the earth. Jesus Christ gave us everything needed pertaining to life and godliness in the scriptures, and there is no need, in fact it is forbidden, to borrow or share authority from another earthly, man-created jurisdiction and power which does not honor Him. Church incorporation blurs and defocuses the clear heavenly union or marriage that the bride of Christ has with her husband, and is truly unclean porneia. It is another attack on the family.
The corporation is an entity created, owned, controlled and protected by the state. The church is an entity created, owned, controlled and protected by the Lord Jesus Christ. For almost two thousand years the church jealously protected with her blood the right and authority not to be defined and “cared for” by the state.
In the covenant of marriage, if another man came into the relationship and said to the wife “I will recognize your marriage and we will know each other if you fill out these forms” we would clearly see it was wrong. I say, we should be ashamed of our apostasy.
Let us uphold and honor the Truth, and the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and His bride. Nevertheless, I continue to love and fellowship with many who don’t agree with me.
Blessings in Christ
Andre Wilson | 13-Aug-08 at 6:41 pm | Permalink
Mr. Klute,
I have been following your posts on this topic for the past several days. I would like to ask a couple of questions, if I may:
Are you already a member in a church now?
If you are, could you explain to me your reasons for wanting to leave it?
Thank you,
Andre Wilson
Andre Wilson | 14-Aug-08 at 5:16 am | Permalink
Mr. Klute,
Thank you for your private replies to my query that I posted previously. I understand your caution in replying to anonymous individuals posting to a public forum like this. I had not given that consideration when I asked the questions, and I apologize.
Thank you,
Andre WIlson
Jeffrey | 14-Aug-08 at 8:52 am | Permalink
Mr. Wilson,
No need to apologize. It is easy for us to forget that although the internet connects us up to the world, it doesn’t replace covenantal relationship. We still need to have those bonds established, as well as an IP address!
Feel free to contact me by phone or email.
In His service and yours,
Jeffrey Alan Klute
Dedra Galyon | 07-Sep-08 at 11:25 pm | Permalink
Is the church you envision autonomous or connected to a denomination for oversight?
I am a member of a PCA church and thankful we are connected to a higher authority for oversight. I believe that is a safer route given human nature.
I am not advocating PCA by any means but do appreciate their form of church government.
What is your take on the subject?
Angela Wittman | 08-Sep-08 at 11:05 am | Permalink
While I agree with the Church being the center of a community in the founding of America with the Pilgrims and Puritans, I do want to point out that there was ecclesiastical oversight.
I can see how a Christian Community could be built around a church planting in a specific area. Do you think perhaps Christians are putting the cart before the horse by starting a community without the initiation of the organized church. I am RPCNA and appreciate the Presbyterian form of Church governance.
Jeffrey | 08-Sep-08 at 8:29 pm | Permalink
Dedra and Angela,
No, the church I desire would most definitely not be autonomous. You are absolutely correct given the depravity of man, a foundational doctrine of the reformed faith. But it is not necessarily “higher authority” that is needed, but covenantal authority, which is not usually a hierarchy, but circles of authority in check and balance against each other.
From my first post on this topic:
Usually this occurs because the church is in a denomination. But there are other ways of looking at this, besides limiting your choices to churches that are in denominations that do not have a doctrinal standard you can agree with.
In history, many churches have been started when a plurality of elders split off from a denomination they did not completely agree with, or moved geographically to an area where communication with the “mother church” was difficult or impossible. Look for men of God who are in good standing and relationship that want to go somewhere and start something new, perhaps on a purer basis. But examine closely the relationship ties they have with others… if there is no one outside the local church plant that they respect, fellowship with, listen to and will submit to then … look out! You’ll have no where to turn to when things get tough (and they will, eventually).
The safest route is going to be a mission church from an established faithful church. Godly authority always recognizes submission to another authority according to Romans 13:1. But it is not required that the church plant recognize the establishing church as “higher.” It is necessary though to appreciate that tyrants see themselves as being at the top of the heap.
Dedra Galyon | 08-Sep-08 at 8:46 pm | Permalink
Mr. Klute,
Thank you for so gently informing me of the true nature of the Presbyterian ecclesiolgy.
I used the term “higher authority” in a way that was not accurate and appreciate being kindly instructed.
I agree with your statements on church governance and am much encouraged by your response.
Angela Wittman | 08-Sep-08 at 8:58 pm | Permalink
Dear Jeffrey,
Thank you for your response. I am a volunteer with Christian Exodus and we have some members who are looking to form Christian Communities, as well as practising agrarianism.
Once again, thanks for the information.
Dedra Galyon | 08-Sep-08 at 9:45 pm | Permalink
I do have a questin in regard to paedocommunion. What is your stance on the practice?
Jeffrey | 09-Sep-08 at 10:37 am | Permalink
Dedra,
I prefer to refer to paedo-communion as covenant succession and communion. I recognize that to many my stand on this was not very clear in my first post when I said “Covenant succession, baptism and communion for children of the faithful.”
The most successful means of evangelization in history has been through His people having lots of faithful children. Although we are accustomed to think of the spread of the gospel in terms of individual conversions of the lost, historically more have come into the kingdom by being born to Godly parents than have been converted in later years. I am not, of course, against the preaching of the gospel to all men, but by far the most effective spread of the Kingdom has occurred by the nurture and admonition of our covenant children. They are the most likely converts…as our preaching of the gospel and the word of God occurs daily by our example in living out the truth. God’s command still stands: be fruitful and multiply and take dominion of the earth.
I cannot agree to relate to my children as individuals with a choice according to modern evangelization. God’s word is full of promise to the faithful that as we keep covenant He will bless our children to know Him and serve Him. Let the fruit of later years prove whether or not our children, like Esau, will sell their birthright for a mess of pottage. Meanwhile, we relate to our children as God expects us to relate: as members of the covenant of grace. Their profession of faith is the profession of faith of their believing parents who take God at his word that He will bless our seed.
Dedra Galyon | 09-Sep-08 at 7:27 pm | Permalink
Thank you for clarifying your position.
Please pray for our family and friends as we seek to follow the LORD in planting a small Christian agrarian community south of the St.Louis area.
May the LORD lead you as you seek to follow him to the pastorate He has ordained for you.